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DuckDuckGo? more like DuckDuckNo
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DuckDuckOH... OH NO....
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DuckDuckGo (more commonly called ddg) is probably the most popular
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"privacy respecting search engine", but we can debate that, DuckDuckGo is a company, not your friend,
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their ultimate goal is to make money and usually companies do that by farming your data.
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Why I have doubts about DuckDuckGo
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First things first - as I already mentioned, ddg is a company an their goal is to make money,
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nothing else.
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Then there is a fact that ddg is proprietary so you can be sure that it has loads of
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unwatched vulnerabilities and as nobody can see the code, they're probably collecting the same, if not
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more data about you than google as some stupid criminals might use ddg for illegal things so they can
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use the data against them to make $money$.
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After that there's the fact they they leave a lot of data in your browser storage
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with cookies so I feel like they're doing a lot of identity storing.
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Even though it's less than google, it's not as much, from my usage expierience
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duckduckgo leaves ~15 cookies where google - ~35, but I use gmail for example, so I think
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duckduckgo as it has no other services that I use still tracks you quite a lot.
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DuckDuckGo also has !bangs, which is a convenient thing, but breaks all BASIC privacy rules...
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It doesn't even fetch it server side when to be private it should, it just redirects you instead with is just
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a horrible idea...
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They say they don't censor anything, but they have to if they don't want to get in trouble with
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the US government, amazon and in general people with higher powers than them.
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It's hosted in the US by amazon, even if they didn't collect any data, amazon is, which collects
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even more data than google usually and as it's hosted in the US so you don't really get much privacy
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by law.
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What I suggest using instead of DuckDuckGo
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Had semi-decent search results
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AT LEAST claimed they didn't collect any data
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!bangs were convenient
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Had a good dark mode
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So I looked around and found
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, it's basically what duckduckgo is trying to be.
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, they have minimal CSS and javascript,
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where its back-end is written in python, as they're fully open source you can self host it or you can trust
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its instances and use them, I personally use
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(the instance) is hosted in the US, which is not preferred for privacy respecting search engines.
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Searx collects no data about you and they're pretty open about what they collect, even your
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preferences are stored on the back-end, I personally don't have any cookies from it from using it
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Searx as far as I can see fills in the holes ddg has:
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being a meta search engine gives you better results
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has bangs, but fetched server-side
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It's minimal
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doesn't collect any data about you AFAIK
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Doesn't market itself as hard as duckduckgo
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Is not a company
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Does not censor beyond the search engines you configure censor you
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And in general seems like what ddg is trying to accomplish, but is failing because it has become like
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it still is identifying you, which is the only huge part you can really try mitigate.
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like you shouldn't.
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covers itself with the privacy cloak, when under is hiding the same evil its talking shit
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about, as I said, ddg is a company, it doesn't care about you, it's just another power hungry
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* [I am in love with scheme/racket](/page/blog/blogs/I-am-in-love-with-scheme_racket.html)
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* [I am in love with scheme/racket](/page/blog/blogs/I-am-in-love-with-scheme_racket.html)
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* [My GPG key](/page/blog/blogs/My-GPG-key.html)
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* [My GPG key](/page/blog/blogs/My-GPG-key.html)
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* [Tech normies, companies and digital freedom](/page/blog/blogs/Tech-normies,-companies-and-digital-freedom.html)
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* [Tech normies, companies and digital freedom](/page/blog/blogs/Tech-normies,-companies-and-digital-freedom.html)
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* [Rust bad](/page/blog/blogs/Rust-bad.html)
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* [Rust bad](/page/blog/blogs/Rust-bad.html)
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* [DuckDuckGo? more like DuckDuckNo](/page/blog/blogs/DuckDuckGo?-more-like-DuckDuckNo.html)
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